505 Hydraulic Roller Package

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Re: 505 Hydraulic Roller Package

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Randy_66 wrote:Those HESCO lifters you are talking about sound like Rhoads lifters, which have been around since at least the 70's.
Similar, but Hesco's dumps the oil out the bottom. Also, I think they only recommend them with their 310* duration cam. Also, using different oil grades will change the way the cam behaves. I was tempted to try the cam, but I have enough sounds as it is.
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Re: 505 Hydraulic Roller Package

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Randy_66 wrote:Dino, how does the stock cam with the stroker compare to the Crane you had been running?
I'm very happy with the stock cam and I wouldn't change it. I know that'll come as a surprise but I'll explain why. Although WOT performance is slightly degraded (only 1-2 tenths slower to the 1/4 mile), there are several reasons why I like it:

1. Glass smooth idle with higher vacuum (21" stock cam v 17" Crane).
2. Valvetrain noise almost non-existent. When I ran the Crane cam with Mopar 5249464 springs, the engine had a noticeable tick at idle.
3. Part throttle response with the stock cam is better.
4. Gas mileage slightly improved with stock cam.
5. More torque with stock cam from idle to 1600rpm.

Don't be fooled by the modest-sounding dyno numbers. This engine feels like it puts down at least 200rwtq even when you only tickle the throttle and the response is neck-jerking. It's so effortless that I have to keep a close eye on the speedo to avoid getting caught by the speed cameras.
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Re: 505 Hydraulic Roller Package

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I never thought I'd say this, but I think I will stick with the stock cam. Sounds like the best bang for the buck longevity wise. I would have thought there would be more power difference.
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Re: 505 Hydraulic Roller Package

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Randy_66 wrote:I never thought I'd say this, but I think I will stick with the stock cam. Sounds like the best bang for the buck longevity wise.
Yeah, I would have saved quite a lot of money if I'd built my stroker with the stock cam in the first place.
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Re: 505 Hydraulic Roller Package

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Cheromaniac: I read most these posts and have always had ONE Question for you, with you likeing the power with the STOCKER cam. Truth BE KNOWN, aren't you still running THOSE HIGH RATIO ROCKER ARMS you put in with the Crane cam?
If you are, it isn't like running a stock cam at all; it would have more lift and duration, right?
ALways wanted to ask that to you.

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Re: 505 Hydraulic Roller Package

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Don, the Yella Terra roller rockers that I'm using are the same 1.6 ratio as the stockers so the lift/duration is unchanged.
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Re: 505 Hydraulic Roller Package

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maybe im lookin in the wrong place, but ive found 1.7 rockers kinda hard to come by :huh:
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