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New build ... need your comments please
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 5:39 pm
by banipal19
Hello guys ... this my first post and first engine rebuild. I have been doing a lot of reading last couple weeks and learned a lot. I have came up with the following:
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Basically:
0.030" overbore
258 crankshaft(12 wt)/connecting rods
KB Pistons IC944KTM-030 (21cc)
98 Stock 4.0 head
0.043 head gasket
Crane 753905 cam
Will this setup be ideal for 80%DD and 20% off road? Also, will I have any problems running pump gas with it (87, 89 & 91)? I am 16ft above sea level ....
If I am way off ... I don't mind getting schooled
Thanks!!
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 6:10 pm
by dwg86
The rod length you have inputed is wrong. When using the kb stroker pistons, you use the 4.0 connecting rods, length 6.125.
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 6:39 pm
by banipal19
Ok ... used 4.0 connecting rods ... and the only difference is:
DCR changed from 7.91 to 7.89.
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 7:03 am
by dwg86
My engine is a short rod engine, zero deck and .041 head gasket. My dcr ended up at 7.75. I run 87 octane with no pinging. I think you could run 8.0 dcr with a tight quench (around .040) on 87 gas. I have over 12,000 miles and still running strong...knock on wood...
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 8:06 am
by Cheromaniac
banipal19 wrote:Basically:
0.030" overbore
258 crankshaft(12 wt)/connecting rods
KB Pistons IC944KTM-030 (21cc)
98 Stock 4.0 head
0.043 head gasket
Crane 753905 cam
Will this setup be ideal for 80%DD and 20% off road? Also, will I have any problems running pump gas with it (87, 89 & 91)? I am 16ft above sea level ....
Looks like you've got your combo pretty well nailed down. If you shave 0.020" from the block and you use the 4.0 rods with KB IC944 pistons, you'll be left with a deck clearance of ~0.008", SCR of ~9.6:1, and a quench of 0.051" (assuming 0.043" HG). The Crane 753905 is a nice cam for daily driver use and yields a wide torque curve. I ran it on my stroker until one lobe and two lifters died after 34k miles (I think the lifters were at fault) and it pulled 17" vacuum at idle.
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: July 9th, 2010, 1:15 pm
by banipal19
Sorry for late reply (been busy family) and Thank you for the info guys!! I really appreciate it!! Little change in my plans ... instead of 4.6 .. I am going for 4.7 since there is virtually no cost difference (same price for KB pistons). I am stuck between the following two:
1: By shaving block 0.020
Deck clearance: 0.008
SCR: 9.68
DCR: 7.87
Quench: .051
2: By shaving block 0.028
Deck clearance: 0.00
SCR: 9.84
DCR: 7.99
Quench: .043
Which one would you go for? Also, what length of push rods will I need for both?
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: July 10th, 2010, 1:06 pm
by Cheromaniac
Option 2 should be fine. Either way you'll need pushrods that are about 0.025" shorter than stock i.e. 9.600".
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: July 11th, 2010, 11:59 pm
by banipal19
Awesome ... Thanks Dino!!

Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: August 26th, 2010, 9:50 am
by banipal19
Can I reuse piston/rod pins or should I get new ones? What about bolts?
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: August 26th, 2010, 10:10 am
by Bodo
Where are you getting the crane cam?
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: August 26th, 2010, 10:30 am
by gradon
option 2
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: August 26th, 2010, 12:41 pm
by banipal19
Bodo wrote:Where are you getting the crane cam?
I got it from Summitracing ... Already sitting in my garage.
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: August 26th, 2010, 12:43 pm
by banipal19
gradon wrote:option 2
Yes, I am going for option 2 but I was wondering if I can reuse piston wrist pins and rod bolts.
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: August 26th, 2010, 2:34 pm
by amcinstaller
if you bought new pistons they should come with new wrist pins
Re: New build ... need your comments please
Posted: August 26th, 2010, 5:30 pm
by SilverXJ
I recommend new ARP rod bolts, but that would require the big end on the rod to be resized.