Enginetech rebuild kits?

[laxplayermjd]

Hi i am in the process of finding the parts to build a budget 4.6l stroker. I am wondering is anyone has experience with enginetech kits? What brand parts do they actually use? Is it all made by enginetech or companies like clevite or sealed power.

The main reason i am wondering is they have a High torque engine kit on ebay for $435 shipped. This kit includes as advertised...
The kit contains:

*Hyperutectic Pistons and Moly Rings in your choice of Std 020 .030 .040 .060

*Rod Bearings in your choice of Std .010 .020 .030

*Main Bearings in your choice of Std .010 .020 .030

*Cam Bearings

* Full Gasket Set

*Camshaft .420/.420 Lift 280 Advertised 208 @ .050

*Lifters

*3 Piece Single Tru Roller Timing Set

*Expansion Plug Set

*Oil Pump

Buyin this kit i bet could save alot of money but are they quality parts. Would i need to get more specs of there individual parts? I would be purchasing a crank from autozone and rods for 4.2 on ebay. Then machine to .030 and add this kit. Thanks for any input

[mendelmax]

I did my stroker based on enginetech kit for 91-95 engines. The kit quality is fine, but nothing special. The pistons had dishes volume of 11ccm, so we dished them to 16.5, and they seem to have slightly bigger deck clearance (I didn't measure it very precisely, because I already had them and couldn't change them anyway). They are cast and rather poorly mashined (whole dish bottom is very rough, not machined at all), but I don't know who makes them. The camshaft is clevite 229-1929, and the oil pump is most likely a melling pump. I don't know other parts brands.

Another thing is that the timing chain is one-row kind (sorry, don't know proper english term, I'm not a native English speaker ), which probably will led to shorter longevity. The valve cover gasket was cork.

Using my setup we ended up with about 9.7CR and 7.2 DCR (but that's with 53ccm chamber). Leaving these pistons stock would lead to 10.3CR and 7.6DCR. Now I regret that we dished them, but that was a stupid mistake (long story).

So in other words, it is possible to use this kit, and the stroker will run fine, but it's not as good quality as proper parts bought separately.

If I would do it again, I'd rather make my setup on my own. I'm not bashing the enginetech completely though. It's good budget alternative, but I highly suggest considering if you couldn't spend a bit more and have a bit better engine.

Good luck with your build

[stockhardcorejeeper]

good enough stuff. I upgraded to rubber reuseable valve cover and oil pan gaskets so add that $40 bucks in. I'm sure you can do better if the budget allows. I also think I paid a little less through my machinist. That's why I went with that kit. He was ordering the parts to match his machining and I didn't want the hassle of ordering the wrong parts on my first rebuild. I'd do much differently (and will) on my 2nd rebuild.

PB

[seanyb505]

Search for falcon on ebay. You can order better stuff a la carte, I believe the engitech packages are prewrapped and you get the whole thing. Falcon had good prices, and were very helpful when dealing with them.

[laxplayermjd]

Does anyone know what pistons come from enginetech or falcon? And what kind of dish they come with?

[eastin82]

i got sealed power 677cp30 pistons, perfect circle rings, dorman brass freeze plugs, and clevite cam bearings from falcon so far. there very helpful and those pistons can be dished. im also going to get rod and main bearings(clevite) from them also maybe gasket kit. havent checked that out yet. i spent a little over 200 on that including shipping. good luck

[gradon]

That was a reasonable price for what you got.

[laxplayermjd]

How do you order from falcon is it ebay only?

I saw this kit also on ebay,,, falcon sales e store for $450 or best offer

BRAND NEW
Premium MASTER engine rebuild kit for 1987-89 AMC Jeep/Eagle 242 4.0L. P/N 308-500. Kit includes the following components:

* Perfect Circle cast steel piston rings
* Clevite rod bearings
* Clevite main bearings
* Clevite cam bearings
* Victor-Reinz or Fel-Pro gasket set
* Cloyes 3-piece timing set
* Melling oil pump
* Sealed Power piston set
* Pioneer expansion/freeze plug kit
* Melling camshaft
* Topline Hylift lifters

Does that gasket set include one piece rubber pan gasket? Anyone know what cam this is or specs? Pistons i think are 677p, are they 14.5cc?? Im wanting to build this motor pretty cheap being as i didnt spend alot on the jeep. But i think i read somewhere enginetech kit pistons look crappy and are only 11cc. That would make too high of compression i believe. I think i will be buying the reman crank from autozone which comes with bearings. would it still be good idea to but one of these kits and have a spare set of bearings or call them and order everything but the main and rod bearings?

[eastin82]

i read somewhere before i purchased stuff from them that they give a better price on the phone than ebay. I was planning on buying all my parts seperate as i needed them. just check out prices on ebay and call the number they have it posted with there details in the bid. they have alot more parts avialable than what they have on ebay. so far everything has come out good for me. im sure they have different sealed power pistons i think dont quote me but 677cp and 802 or something. the 677cp can be dished more and has a pin height of 1.585 the other is 1.592 it can also be dished but not as much im shooting for a quench of .0445. 677cp dished to 23cc and deck clearance .0005 and bla bla bla. good luck and i think the clevite bearings would be better than other maybe just crank not bearings from autozone. and make sure the crank isnt ground a shitload there are good ones out there. post what u find out about there gasket kits havent got that far with them.

[laxplayermjd]

Called Falcon today. Nice guy on the phone spoke with him for a while. They have all three pistons the 677p, 802, and 825. As i was looking at the 87-89 gasket kit for my 88 renix. He stated the one for that kit was felpro kit. I asked bout the pan gasket, took some time to figure it out, they showed it as multipiece gasket but in 92 it changed to one piece. He also stated that the 258 rods are getting hard to come by. They are out of stock as well as their supplier.

Have any of you just used the pistons as is without dishing? Hopefully getting the block to the machine shop tomorrow it needs atleast .005 decked to get rid of warpage. I will be fine in using 93 octance, im just concerned with pinging. Will i be ok? Will be using 258 rods and one of the three pistons above.

[gradon]

I'm using the 825cp30s w/ stock dish(picked over 677cp because of it being hyperteutic and also the pin height putting it .007" closer to the top, block decked .030" and a mopar 30ab cam w/ advertised 40* overlap(lil less than stock, so builds compression sooner). If I did it again, I'd deck the block .040" and have the dish enlarged to 20cc.