Crank No-Start Troubleshooting

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gabeM
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Crank No-Start Troubleshooting

Post by gabeM »

Hey guys,

First time posting... Thanks for all the great info/photos. It's been a huge help thus far. My build is fairly basic but I plan to wring up a build thread when I'm done to help contribute a bit.


Anyways... I just got my build to the point of start-up/ break-in. It's cranking over but no start. I tried cranking it over twice for about 10 seconds each time; No go. Admittedly I have a bunch of researching to do on common issues, but figured I'd get some of your insight as well.

Details...

2000 TJ. Fairly common/basic 4.7L build using pistons, rods, cam, and ported head all from Russ. Original block and craigslist 4.2 crank. I can provide more details if helpful.

I had a local shop do the machining and assemble the long block for me. I spoke with the owner on multiple occasions and according to him they've done countless 4.0 builds and a handful of strokers. When I picked it up it sounded like he was the one that did the assembly. His son build a stroker a few years ago that's still running strong. It seemed to me like they knew their stuff.

As I said I tried cranking it over twice. It sounded almost like the timing was off. It seemed to be turning over a bit slower than I recall and sounded like something was off in general. I'm doing the rebuild in an apartment complex and had a neighbor come down and mention that he thought it sounded like the timing was off as well. :? I thought I heard a very minor backfire at one point.

I didn't have much time to troubleshoot tonight. Some thoughts...
- It has fuel pressure up to the rail (bled before trying to start and re-verified after trying to start)
- Didn't have time to check for spark. How do you guys typically check for spark with these rail style coil packs?
- I'm not sure off hand on how to check timing. I'd almost like to rule this out for now given the experienced shop doing the assembly. Thoughts?
- CPS... It's there & plugged in. Didn't have time to check anything further.

Nothing else comes to mind, but as I said I have some research to do.


Thanks for the time/help.
nicpaige
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Re: Crank No-Start Troubleshooting

Post by nicpaige »

Plenty of video's on you tube for checking TPS,CPS, Cam Sensor etc with multimeter. Do you smell gas after trying to start it? Pull coil rail then stick plug in end and hold it near the valve cover, you should have a crisp blue spark when cranking. Also a bunch of videos on setting the cam sensor correctly which controls your timing, there is no distributor to advance or retard timing with it's all done between sensor and PCM. Give your battery a good charge also.
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