So this whole poor man stroker thing......
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Re: So this whole poor man stroker thing......
Russ you have a lot more patience with this level of ignorance then I could ever hope to.
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Yea I forgot jawduste you always knew everything. You know how to paint cars too ? Pretty sure you have never heard of or used 3000 grit sandpaper before. Oh wait !!! Of coarse you invented it !
Get off your big horse Napoleon , you probably drive a dodge ram on 38" tires with a huge lift and you are 5'2 with a men's size 6 shoe.
Get off your big horse Napoleon , you probably drive a dodge ram on 38" tires with a huge lift and you are 5'2 with a men's size 6 shoe.
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Most people here are trying to learn complicated extensive engine specifications. Most of us know more about xj's or tj's. Got a xj question ? Try me !!!
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Sir,
you came to this venue looking for direction on how to build a well running, reliable Jeep 4.0 based stroker engine. Some of the very best stroker engine builders in the world offered advice and instruction. You on the other hand had a negative closed minded attitude that belayed all of the solid instruction you were given. Myself (whom can lay claim to having several of the most recognized stroker engines in the country) and others offered up personal contact information away from this public forum in order to help you.
Even with direct one on one communication you still bucked the very people whom you asked to help you. Even when a third party got involved you still insisted against the grain of proven solid engine building practices of those whom do it for a living rather then a hobby.
As your project matured and specific question began to surface your past attitude lead to people having less and less interest in offering there hard earned knowledge. Out of sheer frustration with you, those whom know the answers took a negative attitude towards your endeavor. Like the child begging for attention all you could counter with is some bland offshoot abilities that was supposed to impress. Chris, we really don't care how well you paint or your knowledge of XJ`s. We are here to discuss Jeep stroker engines.
Your latest comments on spark plugs and cylinder head machining prove without a doubt you have no idea what your talking about or claim to know.
If you ever find the ability to put your mouth in neutral and open up your thought processes we can have an intelligent conversation. Be it stroker engines or dynamics such as Ackerman, KPI, scrub radius, harmonics, SBEC/JTEC, torsional stiffness dynamics or whatever.
Your engine builder/machinist is right, "my customer is an idiot". Quoted word for word.
All the best in your efforts of building a Jeep based stroker engine.
J`saw out..........
you came to this venue looking for direction on how to build a well running, reliable Jeep 4.0 based stroker engine. Some of the very best stroker engine builders in the world offered advice and instruction. You on the other hand had a negative closed minded attitude that belayed all of the solid instruction you were given. Myself (whom can lay claim to having several of the most recognized stroker engines in the country) and others offered up personal contact information away from this public forum in order to help you.
Even with direct one on one communication you still bucked the very people whom you asked to help you. Even when a third party got involved you still insisted against the grain of proven solid engine building practices of those whom do it for a living rather then a hobby.
As your project matured and specific question began to surface your past attitude lead to people having less and less interest in offering there hard earned knowledge. Out of sheer frustration with you, those whom know the answers took a negative attitude towards your endeavor. Like the child begging for attention all you could counter with is some bland offshoot abilities that was supposed to impress. Chris, we really don't care how well you paint or your knowledge of XJ`s. We are here to discuss Jeep stroker engines.
Your latest comments on spark plugs and cylinder head machining prove without a doubt you have no idea what your talking about or claim to know.
If you ever find the ability to put your mouth in neutral and open up your thought processes we can have an intelligent conversation. Be it stroker engines or dynamics such as Ackerman, KPI, scrub radius, harmonics, SBEC/JTEC, torsional stiffness dynamics or whatever.
Your engine builder/machinist is right, "my customer is an idiot". Quoted word for word.
All the best in your efforts of building a Jeep based stroker engine.
J`saw out..........
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Re: So this whole poor man stroker thing......
jsawduste wrote:Sir,
you came to this venue looking for direction on how to build a well running, reliable Jeep 4.0 based stroker engine. Some of the very best stroker engine builders in the world offered advice and instruction. You on the other hand had a negative closed minded attitude that belayed all of the solid instruction you were given. Myself (whom can lay claim to having several of the most recognized stroker engines in the country) and others offered up personal contact information away from this public forum in order to help you.
Even with direct one on one communication you still bucked the very people whom you asked to help you. Even when a third party got involved you still insisted against the grain of proven solid engine building practices of those whom do it for a living rather then a hobby.
As your project matured and specific question began to surface your past attitude lead to people having less and less interest in offering there hard earned knowledge. Out of sheer frustration with you, those whom know the answers took a negative attitude towards your endeavor. Like the child begging for attention all you could counter with is some bland offshoot abilities that was supposed to impress. Chris, we really don't care how well you paint or your knowledge of XJ`s. We are here to discuss Jeep stroker engines.
Your latest comments on spark plugs and cylinder head machining prove without a doubt you have no idea what your talking about or claim to know.
If you ever find the ability to put your mouth in neutral and open up your thought processes we can have an intelligent conversation. Be it stroker engines or dynamics such as Ackerman, KPI, scrub radius, harmonics, SBEC/JTEC, torsional stiffness dynamics or whatever.
Your engine builder/machinist is right, "my customer is an idiot". Quoted word for word.
All the best in your efforts of building a Jeep based stroker engine.
J`saw out..........
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Right ? Its one thing to know your stuff but its another to a act like you are better than God. I'm learning more everyday about this stuff and who doesn't know this stuff its a lot to take in. Russ has been very understanding and helpful because he started at ground zero like most of us. No need to be a dick like the one comment he made " I have nothing to say I'm out " or another about " oh I'll play nice and answer " I hate people like that !!!
BTW I am an idiot ! I've never built an engine before
BTW I am an idiot ! I've never built an engine before
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I can lay claim to recognized strokers in the country.
What an ARROGANT dick !
What an ARROGANT dick !
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Yes I could be called an arrogant dick.
It's the many fucktards such as yourself that have had to be dealt with for their mentality and stupidity to earn the respect of being called a successful stroker engine builder. Public relations are not my strong suit, results are.
Proud of what I do, offer assistance to those whom need or deserve it.
Sorry Chris, I have better things to do with my time then share with you.
It's the many fucktards such as yourself that have had to be dealt with for their mentality and stupidity to earn the respect of being called a successful stroker engine builder. Public relations are not my strong suit, results are.
Proud of what I do, offer assistance to those whom need or deserve it.
Sorry Chris, I have better things to do with my time then share with you.
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Like I really care. You really showed your true colors alright. You definatly are the master stroker !
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Ahh but you do care Chris. That`s why you keep coming back for more punishment.
Unlike many engine builders there is a small handful of people that are willing to reach out into a public venue and offer assistance to those whom want to learn. As a whole we pride ourselves on a well done finished product.
It pains us to see people, even when offered solid instruction go off into areas we already know won`t work as well as they could and should.
My first stroker was built over 10 years ago and is still running today as well as the day it was built. Things like quench, dynamic and static compression ratios were calculated. Valve spring pressures that were in line with the application are just a few examples of many. Numbers that were in disagreement with the so called "recipes" that were popular at the time. That's not bragging, it`s following sound engine build practices that were against the norm that was published at the time.
Even Dino has updated his build specs to represent many of the evolutionary factors that time matured.
We have all tried to help but since I am the one with the mouth I get the bashing. Guess I just don`t like seeing folks spending lots of time and money and not getting the results they feel are just.
You will get "your" engine together. Won`t like how it performs. Try to blame everything but yourself as to the lousy outcome.
Good Luck !!
Unlike many engine builders there is a small handful of people that are willing to reach out into a public venue and offer assistance to those whom want to learn. As a whole we pride ourselves on a well done finished product.
It pains us to see people, even when offered solid instruction go off into areas we already know won`t work as well as they could and should.
My first stroker was built over 10 years ago and is still running today as well as the day it was built. Things like quench, dynamic and static compression ratios were calculated. Valve spring pressures that were in line with the application are just a few examples of many. Numbers that were in disagreement with the so called "recipes" that were popular at the time. That's not bragging, it`s following sound engine build practices that were against the norm that was published at the time.
Even Dino has updated his build specs to represent many of the evolutionary factors that time matured.
We have all tried to help but since I am the one with the mouth I get the bashing. Guess I just don`t like seeing folks spending lots of time and money and not getting the results they feel are just.
You will get "your" engine together. Won`t like how it performs. Try to blame everything but yourself as to the lousy outcome.
Good Luck !!
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Man you know what I think we just got off on a bad foot. Both of us are acting like children. You know your engines that's great and the knowledge and information you provide is helpful. I just don't like the arrogance but again I understand you deal with the same questions all the time. That's all I gotta really to say man. So on my end here I apologize for firing you up. Sorry ( but you're still a dick lol )
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Both of you knock it off. 

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Re: So this whole poor man stroker thing......
Yup. They've certainly evolved over the last decade with the availability of more aftermarket parts and a better understanding of some of the finer details of engine building.jsawduste wrote:Even Dino has updated his build specs to represent many of the evolutionary factors that time matured.
jsawduste wrote:We have all tried to help but since I am the one with the mouth I get the bashing. Guess I just don`t like seeing folks spending lots of time and money and not getting the results they feel are just.
I also hate to see someone spend a lot of time and money on a project that ends in disappointment. I guess I'm more diplomatic but even my patience sometimes gets tested to the limit!
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Thanks Dino, greatly respected.Cheromaniac wrote:Yup. They've certainly evolved over the last decade with the availability of more aftermarket parts and a better understanding of some of the finer details of engine building.jsawduste wrote:Even Dino has updated his build specs to represent many of the evolutionary factors that time matured.
jsawduste wrote:We have all tried to help but since I am the one with the mouth I get the bashing. Guess I just don`t like seeing folks spending lots of time and money and not getting the results they feel are just.
I also hate to see someone spend a lot of time and money on a project that ends in disappointment. I guess I'm more diplomatic but even my patience sometimes gets tested to the limit!

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