No mopar 5249464 Valve springs- alternatives??

[rainman]

Soo I have contacted 6 suppliers at least for these springs- still waiting for one to get back to me.
As far as I can tell there are 3 springs in washington and some500+ springs on back order.
I have already ordered the performance spring retainers and valve locks.
soooo using either stock spring retainers or the performance ones can anybody suggest a valve spring that can be used instead, without machining.
it will be to fit a comp cams 232 cam

thanks and regards,

[the grey ghost]

Supposedly the gm 3200-3400 Venice springs will work, I haven't tried yet though, my moparts connection got me the springs and locks in two weeks, that was six months ago though

[rainman]

Thanks for the reply.
I looked up gm 3200-3400 Venice could get nothing that made sense on google or wikipidia. - What year would this GM venice be? - might have more luck with rock auto.

Also A search for "my mpoar connection" was a bust.

[the grey ghost]

Sorry my phone thinks its smarter than me, its the general motors v6, Buick reandevouxz, grand ams and a lot of others have them

[the grey ghost]

Search "the moparts connection"

[jsawduste]

PAC springs

[the grey ghost]

Agreed Pac has a great selection, gotta do the math though

[jsawduste]

Take specs subtract 20% from the lightest you think you need and then call PAC. Let PAC do the homework.

These engines don`t run enough RPM to justify HD spring rates nor are the typical cam profiles dictating much spring. All your doing is loading the lifter more.

I would have to look at my notes but I took the recommended Hesco spring for my Hesco cam and knocked the pressures way down. The timing and injector phasing allow for 55-5600 rev limits and the valves do not float.

[jeepxj3]

Take specs subtract 20% from the lightest you think you need and then call PAC. Let PAC do the homework.

These engines don`t run enough RPM to justify HD spring rates nor are the typical cam profiles dictating much spring. All your doing is loading the lifter more.

I would have to look at my notes but I took the recommended Hesco spring for my Hesco cam and knocked the pressures way down. The timing and injector phasing allow for 55-5600 rev limits and the valves do not float.

What springs did you actually use? part number? specs?
Thanks

[jsawduste]

HESSPRSS6 springs.

Bennie`s recommended 1.7 installed height is too much at 135ish on the seat

Cutting the seat to 1.8 drops the pressures down to 115 on the seat and 245ish @.500.

Perhaps Hesco has speced different pressures over the years because the rates have changed from one generation to the next.

[jeepxj3]

Thanks.
There were no specs on hesco site for these springs.
seem like 260 lb/in which seems about right.

I wonder why only for single groove valves? I wonder why not for '98+ with 3 groove valves and locks. I thought they both were 8mm 8*.
What is there for the 3 groove valves and locks?

[Cheromaniac]

Here's another alternative:

http://www.jeepstrokers.com/forum/viewt ... 0&start=15

In a nutshell: Ford 4.6L 2-valve beehive springs, Hemi 8 deg retainers, stock 8 deg locks.

[jeepxj3]

Engle Cams has a couple of possibilities.

#593 220 pound/inch 1.80"=95psi seat 0.450" lift= 190psi, -or- at 1.65"=125psi seat 0.450"=215psi
#696/697 250 pound/inch 1.65"= 105psi seat 0.450" lift=220psi
#6612 280 pound/inch 1.65"= 110psi seat 0.450" lift=235psi

Need to find out the diameters of these springs.
I wonder who makes their springs?

[jeepxj3]

ENGLE CAMS- VALVE SPRINGS

#593 220 pound/inch 1.440"OD 1.075"ID $127.20/16pcs
1.80"=95psi seat 0.450" lift=190psi
1.65"=125psi seat 0.450"=215psi

#696/697 250 pound/inch 1.380"OD 1.055"ID 0.805"InnerID $91.16/16pcs Pontiac application
1.65"=105psi seat 0.450" lift=220psi

#6612/6602 280 pound/inch 1.250"OD 0.680"ID VW application $58.95/8pcs ($117.90/16pcs)
1.65"=110psi seat 0.450" lift=235psi

NOT Beehive or Conical.

[jsawduste]

I run 593`s in my junk @ 1.7 IIRC