Initial cam timing on camshaft

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I really need to dig out my blueprint sheet so i forget my inital cam timing. I DID degree my cam and wrote it down but cant find paper today.
88 block
81 crank rods
91 7120 head
88 renix cam 270intake, 112 seperation, stock is 8 degrees retarded and i am running i think 4 degree retarded and maybe zero/straight up.
Carb motor, 727 trans
91 octane only(never tried anything else)

With zero or 4 degrees retarded cam timing- I forget
Spark timing 8
POS dog and I Wanna know

what base cam timing you used and what distributor timing do you have?