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2001 grand Cherokee Stalling.

Posted: September 25th, 2016, 7:38 pm
by bigal389
Ok here's the situation: a friend that I work with has a Grand Cherokee 4.0 he tried to Change the timing chain and gears himself and could not get it to run after the install. I told him I would try to help him with it. After a an hour of trying I had no luck so I tore it back down to see if he had it timed correctly and it was. Keep in mind it ran and good before and someone suggested he put a timing set on due to the mileage (150k). I put timing cover and balancer back on but the balancer was about 60* off tdc so I took the balancer bolt out just to see where the keyway was and it was still straight up, the balancer had spun. I installed a spare balancer that I had tdc marks lined up, good to go right, nope, he had pulled the cam sensor and it was off as well. I pulled the sensor and re installed it fired right up. Now this is where it gets weird, it runs great until you try to come to a stop then it acts like its running out of gas and dies. He say it didn't do this before. I thought maybe I had it 180 out so I rechecked and it was correct. Any ideas or thoughts on what it could be? I have checked for vacuum leaks, loose connections, grounds etc. it has no codes either.
Thanks, Al

Re: 2001 grand Cherokee Stalling.

Posted: September 26th, 2016, 9:02 am
by SilverXJ
How are you installing the cam sensor?

How did you install the timing chain, dot to dot?

How does it run aside from stalling?

Re: 2001 grand Cherokee Stalling.

Posted: September 26th, 2016, 10:06 am
by bigal389
Installing the cam sensor with engine on tdc on the timing mark #1 piston on compression using the tooth pick method.
Timing chain is dot to dot.
Runs normal besides the stalling on deceleration.
I also cleaned the IAC valve and replace the tps with a known good one.
Al

Re: 2001 grand Cherokee Stalling.

Posted: September 26th, 2016, 10:46 am
by bigal389
Also on a quick note when it stalls it will start right back up.
AL

Re: 2001 grand Cherokee Stalling.

Posted: September 28th, 2016, 5:17 am
by bigal389
No real updates, the only thing I have been able to get any results from was place a small spacer over the idle stop. With the spacer there it doesn't cut off but the idle still drops to about 300 when stopping unless the a/c is then it only drops to 500.
Al

Re: 2001 grand Cherokee Stalling.

Posted: September 28th, 2016, 6:43 pm
by bigal389
Ok I know this isn't the right way to fix the idle problem he's having but the only way I got it to stay steady was to adj the idle stop on the throttle body.
Al

Re: 2001 grand Cherokee Stalling.

Posted: September 29th, 2016, 8:33 am
by SilverXJ
Did you clean or replace the IAC? Maybe try resetting the PCM.. prehaps it has a bad habit left over form a stretched chain.

Re: 2001 grand Cherokee Stalling.

Posted: September 30th, 2016, 4:49 am
by bigal389
Yes iac was cleaned and PCM was reset each time any changes were made.
Al

Re: 2001 grand Cherokee Stalling.

Posted: March 16th, 2017, 1:28 pm
by Mr-TT
Have you tried TPS.You may have a vacum leak

Re: 2001 grand Cherokee Stalling.

Posted: March 16th, 2017, 2:56 pm
by UberDuper
Had a similar problem with a honda s2000. Ended up being the MAP sensor voltage spiking when going off throttle causing the ECU to dump a ton of fuel.
AFAIK you can do a quick test by disconnecting the MAP sensor and driving it around. ECU should fall back on its tables and run alright.