Jeep Strokers

I won't try to claim credit for this. Whoever color coded it is awesome.



At a two inches of lift pulling the oil pan is a nightmare. I want to say there is a screw plug that goes in both sides of the tappet galley. If you have a manual pressure gauge to throw on in place of the sender that might help. You can rule out anything below it that way.

vashxj wrote:im running 9.6 with 5 psi of boost on 93 no problems at all in fact im bumping it to 10 psi soon. it takes a lot for it to ping

But what are you running for initial and total timing?

.... Sorry for hijacking the thread.

beater_renix wrote:I won't try to claim credit for this. Whoever color coded it is awesome.



At a two inches of lift pulling the oil pan is a nightmare. I want to say there is a screw plug that goes in both sides of the tappet galley. If you have a manual pressure gauge to throw on in place of the sender that might help. You can rule out anything below it that way.

I have a 2" budget lift. And you are correct that it is a nightmare. I Know it gets hung up on the pump. so I'm thinking that if I drop the pan. remove the pump bolts I should be able to jimmy it out
then check everything with the oil pump out. (spin it in oil and see if it picks it up) I May grind that edge off. But I know it worked before without modification. So we shall see.

Does anyone know if when I remove the oil pan if I will be able to see if the plug is in the timing area with the pan off ?

I don't think so. Its behind the cam gear.

We also left out the most basic item. What oil filter are you using?

FWIW, I color coded the above image.

I am Using a mobil one filter.
I know about fram filters and believed the mobil is okay to run. its the taller style

One thing I would like to note. and someone correct me if Im thinking odd
The more I think about it.
When I turned over the engine. I only really saw oil coming up the back 3 cylinders up the pushrods. the front 3 had barely anything coming up.
being that the oiler line runs front to back.
My guess keeps leading more and more to that the plug is missing at the front. I really wish I had a pic with the timing set off so I could confirm the plug to be missing.
because if the pump was not getting pressure wouldn't it have not pumped oil to the back rockers ? right ?
maybe Im crazy. but I might be right.
One other reason I don't think it's the pump. When I first started to prime the oil system, for some reason I only had 4qts in it. And as I ran it. It emptied out the oil pan. And made bubbling noises. If it was feeding oil down to the front and ran out. It would make sense that it would leak out of the end. Then make its way back to the sump to be recirculated. If it was leaking out of the pump. I wouldn't have heard the bubbling. I attested it to the lack of oil I had the first time I spun it. But the more and more I think. The more I'm convinced it's the front plug. Gotta pull either the oil pan or the timing cover. We shall see if my hunch is correct

Then it's resolved: SilverXJ is awesome. That's image is quite handy.

Blu3fan, I think your on the right track. I would investigate the galley plug behind the timing set before taking the pan off. I haven't had the timing cover off in my jeep, but I'd be willing to bet that will suck.

That's my plan renix, I really couldn't have completed this rebuild or my first build without this forum. It's been an invaluable rescourse.
I have Sunday off. So I'll pull the timing cover off. The main thing that I'm worried about is removing the cam gear. That little ear on cam that pushes through was so tight when I bolted it in. It literally shaved the post when it went on.
Hopefully I won't have to remove the cam to get to the plug *if it is missing, I'm gonna put the dampener puller on it and try to pull it off. Otherwise it's pull the head or jimmy some wire to hold all 12 lifters.
The more I look at pics. I might be able to put the plug in through the cam gear holes. But pics cannot confirm if that little dowel will fit
The more I look at this pic of someone else's rollmaster I see the plug being maybe close enough I could get it out, but really hard to say for certain

You don't need to pull the plug out, you just need to inspect it first to see if the plug is present and installed.

jeepxj3 wrote:You don't need to pull the plug out, you just need to inspect it first to see if the plug is present and installed.

I'm just hoping if the plug is missing. That I can squeeze it through the cam gear hole if that makes any sense

I just went back through my photos (you posted one of them), I have a head on shot of the timing set and the plug. It is a clean shot through one of the holes in the cam cog to access the plug.

Thanks silver xj, I figured it was yours but I found the pic on naxja so wasn't sure,
Thanks for the info. That makes me feel better. Hopefully I won't be pulling the cam out/timing set off to thread it in.

Yep. Plug was missing.
Bolted everything up.
primed the oil system
fired her up. 60psi.
I can hear a faint ticking. sounds like a lifter. towards the back. maybe cylinder 4.
Im going to pull the head off and replace all the lifters soon

You might still have some entrapped air in a lifter