The BeaterRenix 4.6L Saga

[cruiser54]

Click on this link and read Tips 12 and 13 if you're gonna mess with the dizzy.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz4d205 ... edit?pli=1

[beater_renix]

Click on this link and read Tips 12 and 13 if you're gonna mess with the dizzy.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bz4d205 ... edit?pli=1

Thanks Cruiser, I'll give that a go.

About the Ignition trigger: Would I be able to see that with a digital meter? It just looks like 5 Volts, 0 when set to AC.

[cruiser54]

The proper digital meter will have an aC scale and it will show.

[beater_renix]

I managed a couple of hours in the garage last night.



The Distributor button wasn't as clean and shiny as I thought it should be so I took emery cloth to that.
I verified the fuel pump is running while cranking.
Firing order is correct.
From the photo is the distributor index correctly? I don't see how that could be a tooth off?
I gave up trying to measure the trigger input, and just pulled the plug on #1 and held it to the block. I HAVE SPARK!
I smell fuel but it must not be enough.

NOW WHAT?
Fuel: I guess I need to find a way to verify the Injectors are running while cranking.
Air: The IAC stepper is off a throttle body I have never used before, so It could be faulty? Can I remove it, will it just idle high or will it run away high? Should I just give it partial throttle while cranking?
Spark: We are good there.

I told a buddy I had two more theories then I'm going to set it on fire. that was three theories ago... MAN this is frustrating

[cruiser54]

It's not indexed correctly. The trailing edge of the rotor needs to be .020" past the #1 terminal on the cap.

You also know that #1 is in the 5 o'clock position when viewed from the passenger side fender, right? I wish I knew how to post photos here.

[beater_renix]

So it sounds like I'm a tooth off? That's at least something tangible to go test! I feel like I've completed the Cam breaking with the starter motor.

Should it matter that I'm running Comp 68-232-4? That won't change the TDC center line so no never mind just thinking out loud. .020 thou past #1 (IE to the left of the #1 post). Would that cause it to completely NOT fire?

Cruiser I'm gonna buy you a box of cigars. I really appreciate your help.

[cruiser54]

Cam doesn't matter.

Yes, after the terminal of the cap.

Click on the link below and scroll through to see the correct firing order and placement of #1. Lots of photos, but unless I learn how to upload them here, it's the best I can do.

http://www.cherokeeforum.com/g/album/1725214

[beater_renix]

Cruiser I hope you don't mind me re-hosting this for comparison.

[cruiser54]

Absolutely not. We're all in this together. Thanks!! Did you see the firing order one?

[beater_renix]

This seem too far. I shouldn't have to cut the ear should I? If I go back the other way the rotor is centered on #1. It way closer to "6 o'clock" than 5. Thoughts?

[cruiser54]

Very common to have to cut the ear.

So common in fact, that I just do it on every dizzy I have occasion to remove.

[beater_renix]

So put it back on like this.. Replaced the new cap. No change. Gonna try a noid light on the injectors. And a timing light from a buddy.

SO FUSTRATED!!!

[beater_renix]

Noid light verified the injectors are firing(or at least #1 is). Can't get to a timing light today. It seems to me that the problem HAS to be in the timing.

I guess I'll look at the distributor again.

[cruiser54]

Timing is controlled by the ECU based on inputs from CPS. Is the spark strong and blue at the plugs?

[beater_renix]

It's blue-ish white. Seems pretty strong. I'm at a total loss. I've got fuel and spark! Seriously! What gives!