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Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 5th, 2013, 4:22 pm
by CandyCaneXj
Hello everyone new guy on the forum. Been reading on this sight for over a year and figured about time I join in. Lots to learn on here! I have a 94 xj 4.0 which i performance modded quite a bit despite no forced induction or stroker. I really want the stroker to happen. Most likely going to go with the 4.9 kit from 505 performance(currently waiting on the race head). My question is is their any dual outlet header that comes with 2 1/4 inch collectors and not 2 inch? Might have to get my pacesetters cut and welded if i cant find any. Im going to run a true dual all the way I know it's unnecessary but it's something I really want to do. Any help would be great!

Re: Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 7th, 2013, 6:01 pm
by mountaineerjeff
If you are set on it, then by all means, but someone correct me if im wrong, but du to scavenging would a wll made 6-2-1 make more power?

Re: Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 8th, 2013, 12:07 pm
by CandyCaneXj
mountaineerjeff wrote:If you are set on it, then by all means, but someone correct me if im wrong, but du to scavenging would a wll made 6-2-1 make more power?
Thats what i was wondering but then if i only had one pipe it was have to be at least a 2.9 inch pipe size at the collector to keep from restricting the potential hp? Two 2 inch pipes is good for around 320 hp if i remember correctly. So it would have to be one 3 inch or two 2 1/4 inch.

Re: Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 1:10 am
by mountaineerjeff
well I mad 295/350 rwhp and I have a single 2.5"

Re: Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 1:58 pm
by CandyCaneXj
mountaineerjeff wrote:well I mad 295/350 rwhp and I have a single 2.5"
Is that with or without a charger on it?

Re: Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 2:08 pm
by CobraMarty
He uses nitrous.

Re: Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 9th, 2013, 6:08 pm
by mountaineerjeff
yes, and that said, the new setup is going to be a single 3" dump. Im not sure where though. I want it to be as short as possible, but also dont want to get sick from fumes....Im going to try to mod a pacesetter 6-2-1 and go from there.

Re: Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 10th, 2013, 6:39 pm
by I6FAN
CandyCaneXj wrote:
My question is is their any dual outlet header that comes with 2 1/4 inch collectors and not 2 inch?
I believe the Clifford headers have a 2.5" collector, and you could use a reducer to get it down where you want it.

mountaineerjeff wrote:
but du to scavenging would a wll made 6-2-1 make more power?
Always thought a true dual was better for top end, and the 6-2-1 was better for lower end(?) There's also a header you see down in Australia configured 6-3-1. Don't know which is best. I asked the "what's the best header" question on the HESCO site, and the answer I got there seemed like it only created more questions :P. The answer I got there was a 6-1 header. What is lacking is good solid objective dyno results, and the sharing of that such information.... What I would like is a honest full length long tube header, so you could use a cam a little more mid-range, and get the benefit of some torque added back before peak.

Re: Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 13th, 2013, 10:21 am
by the_wrench116
I cut up a borla and made it a long tube 6-2-1 with 2.25 secondary's and a 3 inch collector to a "race" cat and a flowmaster 40 series.

Re: Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 13th, 2013, 3:24 pm
by I6FAN
What are the stock sizes for the Borla?

Re: Dual outlet header 2 1/4in collectors?

Posted: September 13th, 2013, 8:09 pm
by CandyCaneXj
I dont even know of a header that is a single collector and more than 2.5 inches.