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correct injectors?

Posted: March 25th, 2012, 8:15 am
by flexin91xj
I think I got the right injectors but just wanted to double check. I got 8 of them for under $60 bucks including shipping. These are for my modified 4.0, not a stroker.
Numbers on side of injectors: 5277739 and 0 280 155 703. For 95-96 Dodge/Plymouth Neon DOHC 2.0L
Im pretty sure I read that these would fit my '91 cherokee but does anyone know for sure? Also, will I be able to fit these in the '99 and up intake manifold?
Here are a couple of pics...

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 25th, 2012, 11:29 am
by Muad'Dib
These are 23lb injectors and are the same injectors that i run on my 4.7 Stroker with a 99+ Intake manifold.

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 25th, 2012, 12:50 pm
by flexin91xj
so there too much for a mildly modified 4.0 I take it?

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 25th, 2012, 2:01 pm
by Cheromaniac
flexin91xj wrote:Im pretty sure I read that these would fit my '91 cherokee but does anyone know for sure? Also, will I be able to fit these in the '99 and up intake manifold?
Yes to both questions. Those 4 hole injectors will work fine but since they're EV6 and you injector harness plugs are EV1, you'll need to buy the necessary adapters. They flow 24.1lb/hr at 47.9psi so at the '91 XJ's 39psi fuel pressure, they'll flow 21.7lb/hr which is close to stock.

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 25th, 2012, 7:14 pm
by flexin91xj
Where can I get these adapters from or do I cut them off a newer Cherokee and splice them in to my fuel rail after removing my old style one? Or should I get another set of injectors that plug into what I already have?

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 25th, 2012, 7:29 pm
by flexin91xj
I found lots of adapters on eBay for cheap.
I need the ev1 to ev6 adapters correct? Not the other way around.
Should I use an adjustable fuel pressure regulator when installing these or does it matter?

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 25th, 2012, 8:40 pm
by Muad'Dib
The injectors are EV6, but have EV1 connectors.. no adapters needed.

Again they are 22.666666666666668 lb hr @ 3bar (43.5psi). So with a stock FPR @ 39 psi, these injectors will flow 21.46225413348797 lb hr.

I run my afpr @ stock 39psi on my RENIX with the 4.7 stroker... so they may still be to big for you... I guess i my RENIX doesnt need much fuel or something.. seems odd.

You can use an afpr to turn them down a bit... but i honestly wouldnt go anything lower than stock fuel pressure to keep the fuel automized.

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 26th, 2012, 10:08 pm
by flexin91xj
Sorry, Im kind of a newbie with all of the injector info Im getting and learning as I go and I seem to be getting mixed answers. So please bare with me.
I hate to say it but Im confused...

1st, will the injectors I posted pics of plug into my '91 XJ's connectors or do I need the adapters that "Cheromaniac" was saying?

2nd, will these injectors fit in my '91 XJ's intake manifold?

3rd, will these injectors fit in a newer '99+ intake manifold?

4th, are these injectors best suited for a 4.0 or a 4.5+ stroker engine?

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 3:53 am
by Cheromaniac
flexin91xj wrote:Sorry, Im kind of a newbie with all of the injector info Im getting and learning as I go and I seem to be getting mixed answers. So please bare with me.
I hate to say it but Im confused...

1st, will the injectors I posted pics of plug into my '91 XJ's connectors or do I need the adapters that "Cheromaniac" was saying? Muad'Dib says no but I can't see how your EV1 connectors will fit onto EV6 injectors without using adapters. Maybe I'm missing something.

2nd, will these injectors fit in my '91 XJ's intake manifold? Yes.

3rd, will these injectors fit in a newer '99+ intake manifold? Yes.

4th, are these injectors best suited for a 4.0 or a 4.5+ stroker engine? Stock/mildly-modified 4.0 engine or Renix-based stroker if at 39psi fuel pressure of the '87-'95 injector rail. At the 49psi fuel pressure of the '96-'04 injector rail, they flow enough fuel to feed a mild HO 4.5/4.6 stroker.

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 5:59 am
by 92tank
just try to plug it in to the jeep without it in the manifold then you will know if you need adapters. or take a pic of the plug so we can see it better. and to answer your ? of fitting the manifolds if it fits one it will fit both

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 9:47 am
by Muad'Dib
flexin91xj wrote:Sorry, Im kind of a newbie with all of the injector info Im getting and learning as I go and I seem to be getting mixed answers. So please bare with me.
I hate to say it but Im confused...

1st, will the injectors I posted pics of plug into my '91 XJ's connectors or do I need the adapters that "Cheromaniac" was saying?
Yes

2nd, will these injectors fit in my '91 XJ's intake manifold?
Yes
3rd, will these injectors fit in a newer '99+ intake manifold?
Yes

4th, are these injectors best suited for a 4.0 or a 4.5+ stroker engine?
Most people purchase 24#'s for a Stroker.. these are ~23#.. so i would say yes they might be a little big. Stock is 19#.
See above...

I do have some 19#'s i need to sell if interested.

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 9:49 am
by Muad'Dib
Cheromaniac wrote:Muad'Dib says no but I can't see how your EV1 connectors will fit onto EV6 injectors without using adapters. Maybe I'm missing something.
If you look at the injectors you can clearly see that the connector is EV1. Even though the injector is EV6.

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 10:57 am
by Cheromaniac
Muad'Dib wrote:If you look at the injectors you can clearly see that the connector is EV1. Even though the injector is EV6.
Thanks for clearing that up. :)

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 4:11 pm
by flexin91xj
Here are some pics I just took.
I wasnt able to pull one of the injector plugs off yet cause I just got home from work and the engine is smokin' hot.
I got these just for my upgraded 4.0 with 99+ intake manifold, k&n intake, ported throttle body, header, full exhaust, and soon an AEM F/IC to contol everything and possibly nitrous.

Re: correct injectors?

Posted: March 27th, 2012, 6:22 pm
by gradon
I understand the confusion, because I haven't ever heard of "ev6 injectors" with ev1 connectors(what you have/what 87-98 jeeps have). I've only heard of ev6 as a designation for the newer style connectors. Muad: you sure you don't mean a gen3 injector with ev1 connector?