'99 MJ 4.7L Build
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Re: '99 MJ 4.7L Build
You're doing fine.
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Re: '99 MJ 4.7L Build
That fine, You are suppose to do that.go4lo wrote: I did have one question, under the valve seats there is a machined section before the casting flash begins. I tried to blend these 2 areas together for smoother flow, I hope that was okay?
You can't jump from 80 grit to the cross buffs. You need to use the flapper discs and work up in grit number. Also, use some WD40 with the cross buffs.They still need to be polished to a mirror finish but the cross buffs won't work....any ideas?
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Your right I forgot to mentionthe flapper disc step. Hopefully I'll finish up today...thanks for the help!SilverXJ wrote:That fine, You are suppose to do that.go4lo wrote: I did have one question, under the valve seats there is a machined section before the casting flash begins. I tried to blend these 2 areas together for smoother flow, I hope that was okay?You can't jump from 80 grit to the cross buffs. You need to use the flapper discs and work up in grit number. Also, use some WD40 with the cross buffs.They still need to be polished to a mirror finish but the cross buffs won't work....any ideas?
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Finally finished up late Saturday after spending a total of 12hrs grinding and polishing Not a fun job at all and not one I hope to have to repeat anytime soon.
I didn't go extreme on any of the ports or the chambers but I'm happy with the outcome and I think the head will flow better than stock.
Polished exhaust ports
Polished combustion chambers
Head Gasket check
I didn't go extreme on any of the ports or the chambers but I'm happy with the outcome and I think the head will flow better than stock.
Polished exhaust ports
Polished combustion chambers
Head Gasket check
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Looks good but I would spent a bit more time on polishing the exhaust Get rid as much of the casting grain as possible.
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I actually enjoy the p&p process even though it takes a chunk of time(20+ hours on these iron heads until I'm satisfied).
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I tried to focus on the smoothing/polishing the short side radii of the exhaust ports the most. You can't see them in my pics but they are smoothed an polished and yes I could have probably spent more time on the exhaust ports but I'm not worried about it.SilverXJ wrote:Looks good but I would spent a bit more time on polishing the exhaust Get rid as much of the casting grain as possible.
I feel like I need to measure the volume of the chambers to make sure they are all close to have a more precise figure when using the calculator. What's the easiest way to measure the volume of the chambers now that they are polished? I don't have any fancy measuring beakers or guages.
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I'd be pulling my hair out if I spent that much time on them I really feel that the head flows well from the factory and the basic clean up will serve my needs well. I'm not building a race engine and will rarely need to take my engine to redline. Is this the best for every application, by no means, but hopefully it will fit mine.gradon wrote:I actually enjoy the p&p process even though it takes a chunk of time(20+ hours on these iron heads until I'm satisfied).
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Re: '99 MJ 4.7L Build
Like I said before, you did fine and it's better than it was before you started. You want a small piece of plexiglass with a hole drilled in it. Use vaseline on the head face to seal the plexi, and a tad on the valve/seat mating surface to make sure they don't leak if the springs aren't installed, place the plexi over the combustion chamber, and use a syringe and oil and start measuring.
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Great...thanks for the help. I'll try to round up the stuff to take the measurements tonight.gradon wrote:Like I said before, you did fine and it's better than it was before you started. You want a small piece of plexiglass with a hole drilled in it. Use vaseline on the head face to seal the plexi, and a tad on the valve/seat mating surface to make sure they don't leak if the springs aren't installed, place the plexi over the combustion chamber, and use a syringe and oil and start measuring.
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I was able to measure the volume of the chambers last night and all came in just over 58cc. I'm sure my head will have at least a minimal decking done at the machine shop so the 58cc is problem not 100% accurate.
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The brown truck guy left me some much anticipated packages today....needless to say I'm stoked!!
Various small parts along with a set new Sealed Power Valves with single locks, the IC944 pistons and rings
New Valves
New vs. Old
Pistons...they sure are sexy
Various small parts along with a set new Sealed Power Valves with single locks, the IC944 pistons and rings
New Valves
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Hey guys it's been a few weeks since I've posted any updates. I took a break from the engine to focus on the suspension build of the truck. My goal is to have the truck rolling prior to getting the engine back from the machine shop so that it doesn't sit too long before break in. The rear suspension is fininshed and the front should be finished up this week with the truck sitting on all 4 tires.
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Now it's time to focus all attention to the engine build. I have 90% of my parts collected but I do have few specific questions that hopefully you guys can help with.
Question 1:
As stated before my block is '99 XJ block, I have the Comp Cams 68-231-4 cam and JP 5629 double roller set. Will I need any other parts to make this cam/timing set work in the '99 block? I thought I read somewhere that the bolt/retainer set up was different in the earlier years?
Question 2:
I don't have all the tools or confidence to assemble the short block myself so I'm paying the machine shop to do this as well; should I ask the machine shop to degree the cam? Also the JP set has advance and retard settings on it but I assume those will be ingorned and it's installed dot to dot? The Comp Cam 231 has a 4* advance? Sorry I'm confused on the timing?
Question 3:
The IC944s have an arrow indicating the install direction, is this the correct orientation or is KB wrong? What piston wall clearance would you guys recommend, my instructions are wrong(blue border)?
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Now it's time to focus all attention to the engine build. I have 90% of my parts collected but I do have few specific questions that hopefully you guys can help with.
Question 1:
As stated before my block is '99 XJ block, I have the Comp Cams 68-231-4 cam and JP 5629 double roller set. Will I need any other parts to make this cam/timing set work in the '99 block? I thought I read somewhere that the bolt/retainer set up was different in the earlier years?
Question 2:
I don't have all the tools or confidence to assemble the short block myself so I'm paying the machine shop to do this as well; should I ask the machine shop to degree the cam? Also the JP set has advance and retard settings on it but I assume those will be ingorned and it's installed dot to dot? The Comp Cam 231 has a 4* advance? Sorry I'm confused on the timing?
Question 3:
The IC944s have an arrow indicating the install direction, is this the correct orientation or is KB wrong? What piston wall clearance would you guys recommend, my instructions are wrong(blue border)?
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Re: '99 MJ 4.7L Build
You will need the cam washer, bolt, spring and pin. The part number is in the FAQ section under misc partsgo4lo wrote: Question 1:
As stated before my block is '99 XJ block, I have the Comp Cams 68-231-4 cam and JP 5629 double roller set. Will I need any other parts to make this cam/timing set work in the '99 block? I thought I read somewhere that the bolt/retainer set up was different in the earlier years?
If you aren't going to install the timing your self and degree it then have the shop do it. The advance or retard settings are used if you want to advance or retard the cam, or if the cam grind is slightly off.Question 2:
I don't have all the tools or confidence to assemble the short block myself so I'm paying the machine shop to do this as well; should I ask the machine shop to degree the cam? Also the JP set has advance and retard settings on it but I assume those will be ingorned and it's installed dot to dot? The Comp Cam 231 has a 4* advance? Sorry I'm confused on the timing?
The arrow is in the correct direction. The large quench pad goes on the engine opposite the cam, the manifold side. I would ask KB about the clearance.Question 3:
The IC944s have an arrow indicating the install direction, is this the correct orientation or is KB wrong? What piston wall clearance would you guys recommend, my instructions are wrong(blue border)?
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Thanks....I assume - '98 and earlier cam bolt kit: Jeep #83502890, washer: #J3173284. I guess I'll have to go to local JY or to the stearlership to pick up both? I can't find them aftermarket.SilverXJ wrote: You will need the cam washer, bolt, spring and pin. The part number is in the FAQ section under misc parts
IF a cam has a built in advance or retard should the timing gears be set up to match the advance built into the cam or will that double the advance/retard? Example, cam has 4* advance built in, should the timing set be set to 4* as well or set to 0?SilverXJ wrote: If you aren't going to install the timing your self and degree it then have the shop do it. The advance or retard settings are used if you want to advance or retard the cam, or if the cam grind is slightly off.
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