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Runs no power
Posted: September 8th, 2009, 8:19 am
by Maddawg
Ok got the motor

in starts very difficult and idles about 1300rpm, very rough. When it drives it has no power at all

. Seems as if timing is way off. Started with fresh 93 octane gas.
Please help. Will provide more info if needed
2000 Grand Cherokee 4.6
SRC 10.03 DRC 7.74
Deck height .010
Head shaved .010
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 8th, 2009, 8:46 am
by Cheromaniac
Maddawg wrote:Seems as if timing is way off.
It probably is. Check your distributor indexing.
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 8th, 2009, 9:21 am
by Maddawg
It's distributorless, I have coil packs. The cam sensor I have adjusted a bit and depending how far I go it won't start at all.
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 8th, 2009, 10:45 am
by Maddawg
Could this be a result of timing chain not being lined up/ installed properly?
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 8th, 2009, 1:23 pm
by Cheromaniac
Possibly. It could be one or two teeth off.
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 8th, 2009, 7:52 pm
by Maddawg
I tried the toothpick method lining up the cam sensor and then it won't start at all, so I have to play with the sensor to get it to run. Does the snsor have to face any specific direction since the oil pump slot can rotate?
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 9th, 2009, 6:45 am
by Plechtan
Since your engine uses a wasted spark system, maybe you are 180 deg out. You should probably pull the valve cover and verify that #1 is tdc on the compression stroke then try the tooth pick again.
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 9th, 2009, 1:38 pm
by dwg86
Did you degree your cam?
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 10th, 2009, 7:51 pm
by Maddawg
Thanks. I'll try some stuff here Friday night. No I didn't degree it, didn't know what it meant, I looked it up and knew what it was after reading about it, but didn't know it was nesseccary untill you mentioned it. I will have to do this ASAP. Thanks so much

Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 12th, 2009, 2:51 pm
by Maddawg
I'm not sure but I may have an issue with the crank gear. The timing (mark) divit is on the leftside of the keyway( on passengerside) when on TDC. The Haynes manual shows it on the right side(drivers)
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 12th, 2009, 5:25 pm
by IH 392
Just went out and looked at my core 4.0, if the key is straight up the the timing mark will be on the passenger side, the marks must line up thrue the centers of both shafts when the #1 piston is at TDC.
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 14th, 2009, 9:49 pm
by Maddawg
Well after a weekend of wrenching it doesn't start. I redid and checked to make sure I wasn't a tooth off or 180out ,TDC & did tooth pick method. So now I will degree the cam. Anyone have any ideas or links to help explain the how to? I did some reading , but just not grasping it. Thanks
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 14th, 2009, 10:02 pm
by omegatron
Have you tried youtube? I know there are a couple of vids that are helpful.
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 14th, 2009, 10:04 pm
by omegatron
Here is one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdpHkQZIJHU
I'm sure SilverXJ has some good pointers as well.
Re: Runs no power
Posted: September 15th, 2009, 3:25 am
by dwg86
The Intake Centerline Method:
http://www.compcams.com/technical/Catal ... 79-380.pdf
Using the opening and closing figures at .050” tappet lift:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavist ... %20cam.pdf
When I degreed my cam, I used the lift @.050 method.