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Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 13th, 2016, 9:30 pm
by Hussler
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 13th, 2016, 9:40 pm
by Hussler
For some reason this is the only pic I have of the motor, looks much prettier in person. 351w, Trickflow heads, wiend intake port matched, exhaust manifolds port matched, holley 4160, Harland sharp roller rockers, cam research camshaft, reverse rotation motor. Boat goes 54mph at 5400rpm (cam limited)

Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 14th, 2016, 12:21 pm
by Hussler
A pic of the crank

I found that the AIRTEX / WELLS Part # 5G1087 has a 49psi rating on another forum, does anybody here use this regulator?
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 16th, 2016, 7:24 am
by Hussler
Has anybody actually built this stroker or is this a desk dyno build?
4.6L Low-buck, low CR "rockcrawler"
~ Jeep 4.2L 3.895" stroke crank
~ Jeep 4.2L 5.875" rods
~ Keith-Black Silvolite UEM-2229 +0.030" bore pistons
~ Increase piston dish volume to 30cc
8.8:1 CR
~ Crane #750501 192/204 degree camshaft
~ Ported HO 1.91"/1.50" cylinder head
~ Mill block deck 0.035"
~ Mopar Performance 0.043" head gasket
~ 0.058" quench height
~ 2.25" exhaust
~ Ford 24lb/hr injectors with stock 39psi FPR for '87-'95 engines, stock injectors with stock 49psi FPR for '96 and later engines
~ 231hp @ 4400rpm, 327lbft @ 2000rpm
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 16th, 2016, 7:59 am
by Russ Pottenger
That isn't a very good combination.
The compression ratio is too low amplified by the fact that you're running the full circle dish and no quench.
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 16th, 2016, 9:48 am
by Hussler
Isn't that close to factory compression? Why wouldn't factory compression be the safe bet?
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 16th, 2016, 10:04 am
by Cheromaniac
Hussler wrote:Has anybody actually built this stroker or is this a desk dyno build?
4.6L Low-buck, low CR "rockcrawler"
~ Jeep 4.2L 3.895" stroke crank
~ Jeep 4.2L 5.875" rods
~ Keith-Black Silvolite UEM-2229 +0.030" bore pistons
~ Increase piston dish volume to 30cc
8.8:1 CR
~ Crane #750501 192/204 degree camshaft
~ Ported HO 1.91"/1.50" cylinder head
~ Mill block deck 0.035"
~ Mopar Performance 0.043" head gasket
~ 0.058" quench height
~ 2.25" exhaust
~ Ford 24lb/hr injectors with stock 39psi FPR for '87-'95 engines, stock injectors with stock 49psi FPR for '96 and later engines
~ 231hp @ 4400rpm, 327lbft @ 2000rpm
That's the old version. Here's the current version and, like its forebear, it's intended for those who want to run 87 octane.
4.6L Low-buck, low CR "rockcrawler"
Jeep 4.2L 3.895" stroke crank
Jeep 4.0L 6.125" rods
Custom forged +0.030" bore pistons, compression height 1.380", dish volume 32cc
8.8:1 CR
CompCams 68-115-4 192/200 degree camshaft
DIY ported HO 1.91"/1.50" 57cc cylinder head
Mopar/Victor 0.043" head gasket
0.043" quench height
Ford 24lb/hr injectors for '87-'95 engines, Accel 24lb/hr injectors for '96-'04 engines, '98 Chevy LS1 25.2lb/hr injectors for '05-'06 engines
242hp @ 4600rpm, 317lbft @ 3000rpm
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 16th, 2016, 10:54 am
by Hussler
Is that from a desktop dyno?
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 16th, 2016, 4:33 pm
by Hussler
I talked with Russ for almost an 1 1/2 hours over the phone and he made me so much more confident in what I'm building. So far I know:
-9.5 static compression which should be about 8.7 dynamic and I will be able to run 87 octane
-Russes Racetec Pistons 60 over and Scat rods which he will balance and assemble.
-Comp camshaft Nitride treatment, an extra $110 but I think a great investment so I don't wipe a lobe
-Going to pick up another block from the junkyard
-99+ intake
-The 4.2 crank I already pulled
I'm still deciding on what to do about the head, which boils down to how much the machining costs to put in the Chevy valves and Springs in a 7120 head.
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 16th, 2016, 4:39 pm
by jsawduste
Russ is a good guy.
Don`t tell him I said that though, K ?
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 17th, 2016, 5:23 am
by Cheromaniac
Hussler wrote:I talked with Russ for almost an 1 1/2 hours over the phone and he made me so much more confident in what I'm building. So far I know:
-9.5 static compression which should be about 8.7 dynamic and I will be able to run 87 octane
-Russes Racetec Pistons 60 over and Scat rods which he will balance and assemble.
-Comp camshaft Nitride treatment, an extra $110 but I think a great investment so I don't wipe a lobe
Which cam are you going to use?
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 17th, 2016, 6:30 am
by Hussler
I don't remember what Russ suggested but I'm certain it was on the milder side
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 17th, 2016, 11:08 am
by Cheromaniac
Hussler wrote:I don't remember what Russ suggested but I'm certain it was on the milder side
Probably the 68-232-4 cam which is a good all rounder. The cam in my rockcrawler combo is more of an "RV" cam biased towards producing more low rev torque (especially off idle) and less HP.
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 17th, 2016, 2:21 pm
by Hussler
I keep seeing those stroker recipes on the web, are the ones you list dyno proven?
Re: Let's build a 4.6 stroker
Posted: February 18th, 2016, 1:32 am
by Cheromaniac
Hussler wrote:I keep seeing those stroker recipes on the web, are the ones you list dyno proven?
Yeah if only I could have free access to an engine dyno to do that!
Unfortunately my desktop dyno has to do but as long as I can input detailed engine specs, the results are pretty accurate.