the limits of the 8.25
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the limits of the 8.25
hey guys, ive been away for a while cause my hot rod project has been receiving more attention than my jeeps lately but i have a question that i thought you guys might be best to ask.
my Model A will be receiving a 460 ford big block and i was going to get a 9 inch rear to handle the power. however, im building this thing on a tight budget and i have an old chryco 8.25 sitting in the back yard.
how much power can that thing handle? should i give it a try? if i break an axle i can always get the 9 inch later. will it be dangerous?
thanx in advance.
my Model A will be receiving a 460 ford big block and i was going to get a 9 inch rear to handle the power. however, im building this thing on a tight budget and i have an old chryco 8.25 sitting in the back yard.
how much power can that thing handle? should i give it a try? if i break an axle i can always get the 9 inch later. will it be dangerous?
thanx in advance.
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
I personally would run the 8.25, if it's going to fail, it will snap a shaft or blow the spider gears.
Either way no parts will go flying out, it just won't go anymore.
Being a c clip axle you should get a rollback to take it home.
Either way no parts will go flying out, it just won't go anymore.
Being a c clip axle you should get a rollback to take it home.
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
What year 8.25, pre 97 had smaller spline count, made the unit a little stronger than a Dana 35 after 97 with increase in count of the axle splines it is closer to the Dana 44 but a little weaker overall. If you have the newer, behind a 460 you might try it as you already have it at hand, I don't think I could advise you to use the older design behind a 460.
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
I forgot about the 27/29 spline change.John wrote:What year 8.25, pre 97 had smaller spline count, made the unit a little stronger than a Dana 35 after 97 with increase in count of the axle splines it is closer to the Dana 44 but a little weaker overall. If you have the newer, behind a 460 you might try it as you already have it at hand, I don't think I could advise you to use the older design behind a 460.
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
If i'm blowing spider gears on a Dana 35 with a stroked, 282 CID inline six, and the 8.25 is only marginally stronger..... I'm sure it won't last long at all.
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
The 27 spline is only marginal stronger. The 29 spline is quite a bit stronger.
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
27 spline was compared to Dana 35SilverXJ wrote:The 27 spline is only marginal stronger. The 29 spline is quite a bit stronger.
29 spline was compared to being almost as good as a Dana 44
a Dana 44 is still not a good option for 460 CID IMHO
Ford 9" is the real deal
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
I would say for true abuse D60 or 8 3/4 are the way to go.
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
this 8.25 is from a '95 so it doesnt have the increased spline count. i wont have lost anything if i break it. how long do you think it would last? i think traction might be a problem so that might help releave some of the torsion on breakable parts. this car will only weigh around 2000lbs and most of the weight will be in the block.
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
LOL if you keep doing one-wheel-peel's then it may hold up for lil bit. 2k lbs is pretty light. I bet the first time the car hooks up on a launch, it grenades the spider gears
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Then it's time for a "Lincoln locker"Mgardiner1 wrote:LOL if you keep doing one-wheel-peel's then it may hold up for lil bit. 2k lbs is pretty light. I bet the first time the car hooks up on a launch, it grenades the spider gears
I wish I had the time to assemble the spare XJ drive train into a buggy, rat rod, or some other crazy fun nonsense like that
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
LOL Yes that sure would be fun
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
Sounds like you will be changing rears twice, I am not as concerned with spider or side gears as I am with the shafts.
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
I think it holds true in almost any axle, but the spider and cross shaft generally tend to be smaller then the shaft of the axle. i dunno. It seems more common that people break axle shafts. Yet i blew apart the differential assembly, and both shafts are fine
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Re: the limits of the 8.25
You get housing flex for free with a 35.................
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